Keeping tribe alive

This is a shout out to the tribe community. I want you to know that we are getting your messages and you’re not abandoned.

Darren has been working to move the site to a new colo and it went down as a result. Its mostly back up.

Some of you have offered help and we could use it!

Email darren@tribe.net.

17 thoughts on “Keeping tribe alive

  1. Do you ~really~ care if tribe lives or dies? It doesn’t seem like it from your (in)actions. 700,000 people want to know.

  2. darren is the site admin and is charged with system uptime. i can barely keep my home pc working. tribe does have limited resources available to fund development, so youre right in saying that we havent funded a dedicated team. we are also open to any suggestions as to what else we can do.

  3. somewhere in this community has to be someone that knows how to keep the system up and running,
    we used to run a small BBS back in the day on a 386 IBM with 2MB tops with over 100 subcribers.. now I realize the scale of things are way different. but the equipment has advanced, there must be a way to “split” the system so it doesnt crash all the time… or perhaps take it to a barebones system, ie; No Photos, etc, until ya can get it back to operating correctly
    so, amongst this community somewhere must be someone that has the capability to figure it out and fix the issues ya’ll are facing.
    good luck, it would be a sad day for this forum to go the way of the Old BBS network..
    but, as with everything, it has it’s time..
    Bare

  4. Hi Mark,
    I don’t know how closely you follow tribe, or if you have enough to hang out there. But you have a very dedicated user base. Last year at this time, we were willing to put up money to maintain our community, and we followed through.
    We are just as dedicated, and just as willing to see things continue. It seems as if, from Darren’s various posts, that tribe was at least self-sustaining if not profitable, between user subscriptions and ad revenue.
    Tribe has growth potential. There’s still huge word-of-mouth interest, and it has a serious following. It’s not going to become the next Facebook–nor should it be. Your users are on average older, more intelligent, and more independent-minded than the average social network user.
    People are buying, selling, trading, looking for and finding jobs, developing professional communities of scholars, writers and artists–all pretty much on their own.
    It is working. But it needs technical support–not a huge team, just a couple of people with the time and expertise to maintain and upgrade it.
    Many users have volunteered to help. My suggestion? Actively solicit the assistance that’s being offered. Make an announcement, run an ad, whatever it takes. You _will_ get a response, and tribe _can_ thrive.
    But please don’t just let it go to hell. It’s too important to too many of us.
    Best,
    -Shannon

  5. Hi Mark,
    I don’t know how closely you follow tribe, or if you have enough to hang out there. But you have a very dedicated user base. Last year at this time, we were willing to put up money to maintain our community, and we followed through.
    We are just as dedicated, and just as willing to see things continue. It seems as if, from Darren’s various posts, that tribe was at least self-sustaining if not profitable, between user subscriptions and ad revenue.
    Tribe has growth potential. There’s still huge word-of-mouth interest, and it has a serious following. It’s not going to become the next Facebook–nor should it be. Your users are on average older, more intelligent, and more independent-minded than the average social network user.
    People are buying, selling, trading, looking for and finding jobs, developing professional communities of scholars, writers and artists–all pretty much on their own.
    It is working. But it needs technical support–not a huge team, just a couple of people with the time and expertise to maintain and upgrade it.
    Many users have volunteered to help. My suggestion? Actively solicit the assistance that’s being offered. Make an announcement, run an ad, whatever it takes. You _will_ get a response, and tribe _can_ thrive.
    But please don’t just let it go to hell. It’s too important to too many of us.
    Best,
    -Shannon

  6. Mark
    Please, please please, dont let tribe die. Ive been paying my money, because tribe is more than a time waster to me, its a lifeline to my social web. I need tribe.
    If it IS going to die, give us some real, decent warning time so that we can save our blogs and contacts.

  7. As of 15 hours ago, it seems Darren has resigned. If this is true, how are you going to A) replace him and B) Maintain tribe? There is a dedicated base of users there who have been feeling disenfranchised for quite some time as well as the extended outages which has left many disgruntled. Please let us know what is going to be done so that we may prepare for it.

  8. As of 15 hours ago, it seems Darren has resigned. If this is true, how are you going to A) replace him and B) Maintain tribe? There is a dedicated base of users there who have been feeling disenfranchised for quite some time as well as the extended outages which has left many disgruntled. Please let us know what is going to be done so that we may prepare for it.

  9. Emailed to Darren and Mark as well
    ******************
    Hey Darren,
    Bobzilla here. I’m responding to Mark’s blog post that said if people wanted to help keep Tribe alive to contact you.
    Tribe is very important to me. It’s a lifeline to many in our community. I could get a long without a phone easier than I could get a long without Tribe.
    While I can’t offer technical assistance that you need, what I can offer is management, organizational, pr and fund raising experience. I have experience throwing large scale fund raising events that have raised over 80K annually, experience managing projects in the 500K to 5M dollar budget range and I’ve worked for some of the largest advertising and media firms in the country. In addition I have extensive non-profit experience. I’m willing to do whatever I can.
    My initial thought is to get a call out for volunteers of all types, have a large brainstorming meeting, discuss current status, finances, strategies for keeping Tribe afloat, etc. From there we can come up with a project plan, issue a statement to users, etc.
    Thoughts?

  10. Mark,
    A couple basic questions.
    You haven’t even logged in to tribe in ages. You are posting this message *here* rather than on tribe.net. meaning most of the membership is unaware of it. You ask us to e-mail the guy that just quit with our ideas, implying you yourself don’t want to be part of the process. If that’s not abandonment, what would you call it? You don’t even use your own service, and are relying on members coming to you to communicate with them? Uninvested seems to be a better term than abandoned maybe. Obliged, but not interested maybe? Will you even be contacting people like Bobzilla here to work out some details? Or just rely on him to e-mail the guy who quit and wait while he doesn’t answer? Actions, or the lack thereof speak louder than words. 4 sentences on a blog no one knows about isn’t exactly speaking loudly either. At this point, Shatter, a non-tribe employee is only one doing your PR and reassuring people the roof isn’t falling in. If you are invested in tribe.net, it would helpful to your users if you showed it, at least as a point of morale. We don’t need you coding the place, but putting in an appearance (of more than 4 sentences) would go some distance towards reducing the feeling you are ignoring us. If you want tribe to survive, you should probably go and actually talk to the users, do some organizing there. Will *you* do what it takes to save Tribe? Here it is 3 days after Darren quit, and where do things stand? Your users seem to care more for this place than you do, if we judge by your actions. Please. Show us otherwise.

  11. Mark, I don’t know you, but I do know and love Tribe. It’s not just an American service either. We have a big UK following for hooping and belly dance and would all of us feel like we’d lost our right arm if we loose Tribe.
    It could well be that you started something with the idea of it being a bit of a hobby at some point. But it’s grown out of all proportion to what you expected and it’s become too much. But out of 700,000 members there will be people there who could take it over and run it leaving you free to move on if that’s what you want to do.
    The worst thing about right now is the lack of information. We are all desperate for our links and contacts to remain. We love what we do here. Please talk to us all, tell us the problems and the possible solutions and outcomes. Offer it open to those who may want to help technically etc.
    Please don’t leave us shut out waiting for the inevitable to just “happen” to us.

  12. I prophecied this would happen a few years
    back when you all seemed to think that trolls
    were funny and that there was no problem.
    Tribes been going downhill for years, and the
    truth is theres not much to be done for it,
    because its loopy spagetti code and the folks
    who know the code don’t work for tribe any more.
    Everybody would be well advised to save all that they hav on tribe, and to find someplace else to host their lives. Tribe is unfixably entropic, all else is delusional fantasy.
    Heres a MODERN bbs that doesn’t go down
    for three weeks and which is actually moderated such that theres NO TROLLS.
    http://mytalktoday.com/solutions/index.php
    Come on over. Tribe? It can’t even figure out how to place its adds any more.

  13. Let’s just say the above comment was advertisement in disguise.
    Dude, Tribe.net rocks; Facebook, Twitter and MySpace ain’t got sh’t on Tribe.
    Keep it alive, work with the user-base, and you may go down in history as the guy who didn’t turn his back on some of the most creative, independent open-minded virtual communities the web has ever seen.
    I’m sure if you announce some sort of fundraiser where Tribe users can make a one-time donation to get essential stuff done, it’d be a huge success.
    Even if that means hiring the past programmers for a week to train new ones; where there’s a will there’s a way.

  14. “700,000 people want to know. ”
    It used to be around that number. As of last week the number was about 248,000, almost one third.. (I haven’t been able to log in since then)
    A writer once said ‘give me a 100 energetic people and I will conquer the world.’
    700,000 people ….
    If you have such a following and can not maintain a website it only points to one thing: sheer incompetence.
    I don’t know how this guy managed to finish his Harvard studies.

  15. “i can barely keep my home pc working.”
    That’s not a valid excuse, You don’t have to be a pilot to run and maintain an airline company effectively.
    “tribe does have limited resources available to fund development, “
    The force, magic and energy behind any successful business is the owner,
    Survival and growth of any business depends on its owner/director. The owner of a business, large or small, provides the energy, the vital force that makes the business thrive.
    You had an incredible resource at your disposal, hundreds of thousands of enthusiastic community members. You have failed to utilize the love and enthusiasm of these people and you can not blame the employee (or users) for it.
    I’m afraid you only have yourself to blame for this dismal failure.

  16. “we are also open to any suggestions as to what else we can do. ”
    For starters why don’t you haul your butt to your office and start acting like a responsible owner of this site.

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