London Times Commites Libel Aginst Me – case of mainstream media fucking up big

i was alerted this morning by my friend chris shipley that the london times had a story yesterday about tookie williams that quotes american blogs responding. they actually took a comment from one of my idiot readers and attributed it to me! and it was the worst comment of all posted.

“Any of you liberal t***s ever think of the murder, drugs and other crap that that gang put into society . . . I hope they really f**k up the execution job so that it lasts a while, slow and painful . . . When you get to the other side and meet God . . . chances are Tookie will meet up with folks like Pol Pot or Adolf Hitler . . . that’s where he belongs”

this is painful and must be illegal. does anyone know how i go about suing a newspaper for libel. if there ever was a clear case this must be it. it’s so painful that after all the shit i’ve taken for defending tookie some idiot journalist named chris ayers actually has the nerve to attribute this horendous qoute to me!

here’s the link. pls pls pls let the deputy managing editor, mr chappell, know what you think of his paper’s slip shod journalism. i hope they take a lot of heat for this.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1927748,00.html

13 thoughts on “London Times Commites Libel Aginst Me – case of mainstream media fucking up big

  1. FWIW here’s the email I just sent:
    “You have an egregious, defamatory error in one of your stories from yesterday.
    The error is in the article by Chris Ayres at this URL:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1927748,00.html#
    In a piece of shoddy journalism, or even sloppy reading, Mr. Ayres attributes a quote from one of the commenters on Mark Pincus’ blog to Mr. Pincus himself. Mr. Pincus has written tirelessly over the last few weeks to urge people to work against the execution of Tookie Williams. He has garnered praise, but also vile, vicious attacks for his stance. The quote you attribute to Mr. Pincus was actually hurled AT Mr. Pincus.
    I think you owe Mr. Pincus an apology and a retraction.”

  2. quit your bitching you are famous now….Just sit back and enjoy the groupies

  3. I am a journalist by (second) trade and I have every sympathy with you. I am only seeing this for the first time and on the page you point to, I cannot see any retraction or correction.
    There is an interesting question here. The attribution was to Mark Pincus (note: not Mark Pincus Blog) but the section was entitled: ‘Blogs Pass Judgment.’
    The question now becomes what is the intention of the attribution and what would a reasonable person assume given only the Times piece as a point of reference?
    Because it is your name on the blog so is your name and ‘blog name’ the same in the eyes of the man in the street?
    Flip a coin is my guess. But I do think that you’ll get a lot further by giving the Times an opportunity to make a correction rather than screaming ‘libel’ before checking the position.

  4. I have sent this email to th online editor:
    “Hello:
    You’re probably aware of the fuss about attribution in relation to Mark Pincus under the ‘Blogs Pass Judgment’ section and that he is screaming for blood.
    I’ve suggested he might seek a correction but it would be magnanimous of the title to augment that offer in some way. I’m not sure how that could be done. As a gesture of good will, I’m sure you’d calm a lot of people if you were to explain where you believe the error occurred in the editorial process.”
    I hope that has effect.

  5. thanks for the support (to those who were supportive). it’s very painful for me and i am going to try to work with them on a retraction and apology first though it’s at best negligence and worst a lazy journalist building a story at my expense.
    his email is
    chris.ayres@thetimes.co.uk

  6. Well-a-day you wanted to open up to a wider audience, be a blogging ant and speak your mind. Aim true, range short. Maybe next time they’ll get a clue and attribute the right people.
    How does a reporter – presumably a hip with-it kinda guy – mistake a comment for a blog post? The mind boggles.

  7. I think that most people would read that as some guy called john, posted on the Mark Pincus blog. I wouldn’t have read that as being “Mark Pincus says on his blog”. Perhaps the union of journalists should just agree a reference standard relating to unmediated/ mediated comments in blogs?

  8. actually, they changed it to say ‘comment by john on mark pincus blog’. originally and in the paper it just said mark pincus. they claimed that someone was just shortening the title of the attribution.

  9. David,
    I am absolutely outraged at your lack of integrity in your article titled “It took them 11 minutes to find a vein. ‘You doing that right?’ Tookie asked” where you quoted Mr. Mark Pincus as saying “Any of you liberal t***s ever think of the murder, drugs and other crap that that gang put into society . . . I hope they really f**k up the execution job so that it lasts a while, slow and painful . . . When you get to the other side and meet God . . . chances are Tookie will meet up with folks like Pol Pot or Adolf Hitler . . . that’s where he belongs”. The reality is that was not Mr.
    Pincus’ quote at all. In fact Mr. Pincus’ was outraged himself at this quote and it does not apply to his opinion in the least. He was simply being a stand for good, honest journalism where all opinions are recorded.
    Not just the one’s we believe or the one’s that bring higher ratings.
    But that is not the point; the point is that you were writing an article and instead of doing your homework and quoting people accurately you chose to (in my mind) “skim” through postings on blog’s and attribute them to whomever you felt. Is this journalism? Not in the least! This is an outrageous lie and you should be ashamed of yourself for having such a lack of integrity in your work. Not only do you owe Mr. Pincus an apology but you owe the entire population an apology for your outrageously bad journalism in that article and any other article in which you lacked honor and truth. Shame on you and shame on the London Times!
    Erin M. Unis

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