In the category of I may be crazy but at least I’m not alone…
And one other point as this debate has now swept to my friends and family too, I have heard the argument about how torturing one person could have stopped 911. Maybe.
We know for sure that our normal humane procedures worked! We identified the guys months ahead but nobody shared or acted on it.
If you want to have a serious debate, pose a solution.
Bull! The burden is on David to prove that torture itself is a solution. The solution Marc proposes is, stop using a tactic that doesn’t work. It’s been shown over and over that torture doesn’t work.
And the “well, look at how they behave” defense is a straw man. If the USA is to be the inspirational beacon of liberty and justice we all know it is, we have to actually behave better than our enemies, not just say it. The battle for stability in Iraq is not about munitions and troop movements, it’s about winning the hearts and minds of the people who live there. If we behave as badly as the terrorists, then a reasonable person can conclude that it’s just two sides of the same coin – and then it’s only a battle propaganda. Our only hope is if they choose the Western values because they are actually better than the terrorists, not because we have a gun to their heads.”
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