How can torture even be a debate? Last gasp of an empire?

I wonder how future generations will look back on today’s debate of where and when torturing prisoners is ok. I also wonder how they will view the media coverage and public reaction, both tepid and matter of fact.

Where is the outrage? I mean what the fuck?! Our country has lost its moral compass. How can a free society ever justify torture and denying people due process under the law? I find myself comparing bush and cheney to hitler and stalin.

How can our own leaders threaten to veto measures to stop this barbaric practice? WTF?! Those of you who voted for them should feel deeply ashamed. But you’re not the only ones who suck, we all do!

We live in a country based on protecting the rights of individuals and minorities against the will of the masses, where we cannot accept the idea of even one innocent person facing capital punishment.

This debate between a morally bankrupt, wacko religious nut president and a dispassionate, desensitized media is the most symbolic sign of the decline of the american era. We have given up our position as beacon of freedom, shining example to the rest of the world.

I’m embarassed to be an american. Embarassed to pretend we are a decent country when our actions say we suck. How are we any better than the germans who stood by while hitler made it morally ok for a govt to commit genocide?

How will we defend ourselves to future generations? I’d like to hear from a christian righter how they can justify this?

How will we feel when foreign govts torture our military and civilians? Outraged? Are we better?

Ok, ill stop. but think about it for just one minute. Do we want to be the last generation of a great experiment? The one that fucked it up? The one that moved backward? Will some kids watch an epic series a thousand years from now called “America” in amazement at how far back we set the world after so much promise?

We need a revolution. When will the ants rise up and over run the republican ramparts? And when this does happen how will we defend democracy from the democrats who are barely a better alternative? Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile.

2 thoughts on “How can torture even be a debate? Last gasp of an empire?

  1. If you can say that as american,i really think that there is a tiny chance. Perhaps with new grassroot like organizations driven by people and decentralized can help not to fuck it up. As a european,i admire/hate your indefectible optimism .Make me think about Henderson The Rain King from the nobel saul bellow. The hero fucked up everywhere he goes even he is full of good will , just because his inner voice say \”I want, i want …\” but don\’t know what.
    Jamin from china.

  2. You’ve been watching too much CNN and MSNBC and reading too much NY Times.
    Get a grip on “torture”. Get some context on “Torture” used in previous wars and then show us how we compare to those wars.
    Compare our “torture” with every other nation’s torture (including our current enemy who enjoys televising beheadings) and show us where we are on the list.
    Finally, get a real grip on “due process” in wartime. Find out how much due process is owed to enemy combatants who do not follow the Geneva convention.
    Put some context in your posts that’s a little better than WTF!!!. You’re a sharp entreprneur but a crappy political observer.
    Comparing your President to Stalin & Hitler? WTF!!!! Context, please.

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